PALM BEACH AGER 3 - Revision history

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NCMSysop at 19:44, 4 May 2024

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	The preponderance of data seems to favor the NavSource narrative and that is what I chose to go with.		The preponderance of data seems to favor the NavSource narrative and that is what I chose to go with.
	It is interesting that we have data for two ships with the same name, from the same builder, operating in the same general geographic area at around the same time.		It is interesting that we have data for two ships with the same name, from the same builder, operating in the same general geographic area at around the same time.
	Innocent ~~until proven otherwise~~, suspicious perhaps, curious certainly.		Innocent likely, suspicious perhaps, curious certainly.
	<p> </p>		<p> </p>
	<h3>Naval Covers</h3>		<h3>Naval Covers</h3>

NCMSysop at 19:41, 4 May 2024

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	<li>'''M/V ORO VERDE''' (Commercial Service)</li>		<li>'''M/V ORO VERDE''' (Commercial Service)</li>
	Resold to a Panamanian Co., date unknown, renamed M/V Oro Verde<br/>		Resold to a Panamanian Co., date unknown, renamed M/V Oro Verde<br/>
			Carried bananas but also rumored to carry marijuana<br/>
	Ran aground in Cayman Islands in 1976<br/><br/>		Ran aground in Cayman Islands in 1976<br/><br/>
	Final Disposition, sunk by Cayman government in 1980 to be used for scuba diving		Final Disposition, sunk by Cayman government in 1980 to be used for scuba diving

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	Commissioned May 13 1967 - Decommissioned December 1 1969<br/>		Commissioned May 13 1967 - Decommissioned December 1 1969<br/>
	Struck from Naval Register December 1 1969<br/><br/>		Struck from Naval Register December 1 1969<br/><br/>
	~~Fate~~ unknown		Sold in 1969-70 to Ralston Robertson, Bayou La Batre, AL.<br/><br/>
			<li>'''M/V ORO VERDE''' (Commercial Service)</li>
			Resold to a Panamanian Co., date unknown, renamed M/V Oro Verde<br/>
			Ran aground in Cayman Islands in 1976<br/><br/>
			Final Disposition, sunk by Cayman government in 1980 to be used for scuba diving
	</ol></td>		</ol></td>
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	<h5>Conflicting History Data</h5>		<h5>Conflicting History Data</h5>
	~~Ship history post decommissioning is unclear.~~		[https://archive.org/details/HECROS1968MZ/page/446/mode/2up Lloyd’s Register of Shipping 1968 M-Z] has an entry for
	~~[https://www.navsource.org/archives/09/61/6103.htm NavSource] says the following:~~		ORO VERDE which identifies the ship as "ex F.S. 207" with builder Higgins Industries, owner of Migrant Shipping Co. Ltd., home port of Nassau, British flag.
	~~<ul>~~		Entries for this ORO VERDE exist at least through the 1988 edition with the ship changing owners multiple times.
	~~<li>Sold in 1969-70 to Ralston Robertson, Bayou La Batre, AL.</li>~~		Lloyds has no other entries for any other ship named ORO VERDE.<br/><br/>
	~~<li>Resold to a Panamanian Co., date unknown, renamed M/V Oro Verde</li>~~		However, the entry in Lloyds cannot be the same ship as MV ORO VERDE / USS PALM BEACH.
	~~<li>Eventually involved in drug smuggling, ran aground in Cayman Islands</li>~~		First, the entry in Lloyds is before the 1969 decommissioning date for USS PALM BEACH and the 1988 entry is past the sinking date of 1980.
	~~<li>Final Disposition, sunk by Cayman government to be used for scuba diving</li>~~		The reference in Lloyds to "FS-207" would indicate that this ship was originally named USAV Col. Demas T. Craw (FS-207).
	~~</ul>~~		Per [https://www.navsource.org/archives/30/07/07207.htm NavSource], USAV Col. Demas T. Craw (FS-207) had unknown decommissioning date and unknown fate.
	~~[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Palm_Beach Wikipedia] says the same - although it is likely they got their information from NavSource.<br/><br/>~~		Wikipedia has no entry for FS-207.<br/><br/>
	~~However, the entry for ORO VERDE in~~ [https://archive.org/details/HECROS1968MZ/page/446/mode/2up Lloyd’s Register of Shipping 1968 M-Z]		Multiple web pages exist for the ORO VERDE dive wreck near Grand Cayman Island.
	identifies the ship as "ex F.S. 207" with builder Higgins Industries ~~and~~ owner of Migrant Shipping Co. Ltd., home port of Nassau, British flag.		All of them indicate the ship was the former USS PALM BEACH.
	~~Note that this is before the 1969 decommissioning date for USS PALM BEACH~~.		The most informative of the sites is [https://blog.stevenwsmeltzer.com/oro-verde-shipwreck-grand-cayman/ Oro Verde Shipwreck Grand Cayman]<br/><br/>
	Entries for ORO VERDE exist at least through the 1988 edition with the ship changing owners multiple times.		The preponderance of data seems to favor the NavSource narrative and that is what I chose to go with.
	Per [https://www.navsource.org/archives/30/07/07207.htm NavSource], ~~FS-207 was later named~~ USAV Col. Demas T. Craw (FS-207) ~~with~~ unknown		It is interesting that we have data for two ships with the same name, from the same builder, operating in the same general geographic area at around the same time.
	decommissioning date and unknown fate.		Innocent until proven otherwise, suspicious perhaps, curious certainly.
	Wikipedia has no entry for FS-207.
	~~Given~~ the ~~confusion,~~ I ~~choose~~ to ~~not list ORO VERDE~~ in the ~~ship's naming history~~.
	<p> </p>		<p> </p>
	<h3>Naval Covers</h3>		<h3>Naval Covers</h3>

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	<ol>Camano Class Light Cargo Ship<br/>		<ol>Camano Class Light Cargo Ship<br/>
	Keel Laid (Date unknown) ~~for~~ the U.S. ~~Army~~<br/>		Keel Laid (Date unknown) "as FS-217 one of the 18 specialized Design 427 variants of the Army Freight and Supply type,
			officially Vessel, Supply, Aircraft Repair, Diesel, Steel, 180', at Higgins Industries in New Orleans."
			[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Palm_Beach Wikipedia]<br/>
	Delivered to U.S. Army Transportation Service December 1944<br/><br/>		Delivered to U.S. Army Transportation Service December 1944<br/><br/>
	<li>'''USAT COLONEL ARMOND PETERSON FS-217'''<br/>		<li>'''USAT COLONEL ARMOND PETERSON FS-217'''</li>
	Commissioned 1944 - Decommissioned 1956<br/>		Commissioned 1944 - Decommissioned 1956<br/><br/>
	Acquired by U.S. Navy June 18 1966<br/>		Acquired by U.S. Navy June 18 1966<br/><br/>
			<li>'''PALM BEACH AKL-45'''</li>
	Designated and named Light Cargo Ship PALM BEACH AKL-45<br/>		Designated and named Light Cargo Ship PALM BEACH AKL-45<br/>
	Converted May 2 1967 to Banner Class Environmental Research Ship (AGER)<br/><br/>		Converted May 2 1967 to Banner Class Environmental Research Ship (AGER)<br/><br/>
	<li>'''USS PALM BEACH AGER-3'''<br/>		<li>'''USS PALM BEACH AGER-3'''</li>
	Commissioned May 13 1967 - Decommissioned December 1 1969~~<br/>~~<br/>		Commissioned May 13 1967 - Decommissioned December 1 1969<br/>
	Struck from Naval Register December 1 1969<br/>		Struck from Naval Register December 1 1969<br/><br/>
	~~Sold 1969-70~~		Fate unknown
	</ol></td>		</ol></td>
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	<p> </p>		<h5>Conflicting History Data</h5>
			Ship history post decommissioning is unclear.
			[https://www.navsource.org/archives/09/61/6103.htm NavSource] says the following:
			<ul>
			<li>Sold in 1969-70 to Ralston Robertson, Bayou La Batre, AL.</li>
			<li>Resold to a Panamanian Co., date unknown, renamed M/V Oro Verde</li>
			<li>Eventually involved in drug smuggling, ran aground in Cayman Islands</li>
			<li>Final Disposition, sunk by Cayman government to be used for scuba diving</li>
			</ul>
			[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Palm_Beach Wikipedia] says the same - although it is likely they got their information from NavSource.<br/><br/>
			However, the entry for ORO VERDE in [https://archive.org/details/HECROS1968MZ/page/446/mode/2up Lloyd’s Register of Shipping 1968 M-Z]
			identifies the ship as "ex F.S. 207" with builder Higgins Industries and owner of Migrant Shipping Co. Ltd., home port of Nassau, British flag.
			Note that this is before the 1969 decommissioning date for USS PALM BEACH.
			Entries for ORO VERDE exist at least through the 1988 edition with the ship changing owners multiple times.
			Per [https://www.navsource.org/archives/30/07/07207.htm NavSource], FS-207 was later named USAV Col. Demas T. Craw (FS-207) with unknown
			decommissioning date and unknown fate.
			Wikipedia has no entry for FS-207.
			Given the confusion, I choose to not list ORO VERDE in the ship's naming history.
			<p> </p>
	<h3>Naval Covers</h3>		<h3>Naval Covers</h3>
	This section lists active links to the pages displaying covers associated with the		This section lists active links to the pages displaying covers associated with the

JonBurdett: new format

2011-06-26T10:20:34Z

new format

New page

<h3>Ship Name and Designation History</h3>
This section lists the names and designations that the ship had during
its lifetime.
The list is in chronological order.
<table width="90%">
<tr>
<td valign="top">
<ol>Camano Class Light Cargo Ship<br/>
Keel Laid (Date unknown) for the U.S. Army<br/>
Delivered to U.S. Army Transportation Service December 1944<br/><br/>
<li>'''USAT COLONEL ARMOND PETERSON FS-217'''<br/>
Commissioned 1944 - Decommissioned 1956<br/>
Acquired by U.S. Navy June 18 1966<br/>
Designated and named Light Cargo Ship PALM BEACH AKL-45<br/>
Converted May 2 1967 to Banner Class Environmental Research Ship (AGER)<br/><br/>
<li>'''USS PALM BEACH AGER-3'''<br/>
Commissioned May 13 1967 - Decommissioned December 1 1969<br/><br/>
Struck from Naval Register December 1 1969<br/>
Sold 1969-70
</ol></td>
<td align="center" width="220" valign="top">
[[Image:PalmBeach_AGER3_Crest.jpg|thumb|center|125px]]
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<p> </p>

<h3>Naval Covers</h3>
This section lists active links to the pages displaying covers associated with the
ship. There should be a separate set of pages for each name of the ship (for
example, Bushnell AG-32 / Sumner AGS-5 are different names for the same
ship so there should be one set of pages for Bushnell and one set for Sumner).
Covers should be presented in chronological order (or as best as can be determined).

Since a ship may have many covers, they may be split among many pages so it doesn't
take forever for the pages to load. Each page link should be accompanied by a date
range for covers on that page.
<ol>
<li> Covers Page 1     (DATE RANGE)</li>
</ol>
<p> </p>

<h3>Postmarks</h3>
This section lists examples of the postmarks used by the ship. There should be a
separate set of postmarks for each name and/or commissioning period. Within each set,
the postmarks should be listed in order of their classification type. If more than one
postmark has the same classification, then they should be further sorted by date of
earliest known usage.

A postmark should not be included unless accompanied by a close-up image and/or an
image of a cover showing that postmark. Date ranges MUST be based ONLY ON COVERS IN
THE MUSEUM and are expected to change as more covers are added.
<br/> <br/>
>>> If you have a better example for any of the postmarks, please feel free to replace the
existing example.



<br/> <br/><table width="95%" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0">
<tr><th align="center" valign="center" width="140">
Postmark Type<br/>---<br/>Killer Bar Text
</th><th align="center" valign="center" width="100">
Date From<br/>to<br/>Date To</th>
<th align="center" width="320">Thumbnail Link To<br/>Postmark Image</th>
<th align="center" width="120">Thumbnail Link To<br/>Cover Image</th>
</tr></table>




<br/> <br/><table width="95%" border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0">
<tr><td align="center" valign="center" width="140">
NO POSTMARKS REPORTED
</td><td align="center" valign="center" width="100">
DATE FROM
<br/>to<br/>
DATE TO
</td><td align="center" width="320">
N/A
</td><td align="center" width="120">
N/A
</td></tr></table>
Note:

<hr>




<br/> <br/><table width="95%" border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0">
<tr><td align="center" valign="center" width="140">
Locy Type<br/>2n<br/><br/>[[DE_SOTO_COUNTY_LST_1171_ | USS DE SOTO COUNTY LST-1171]]
</td><td align="center" valign="center" width="100">
1969-12-01
</td><td align="center" width="320">
[[Image:GregCiesielski_DeSotoCounty_LST1171_19691201_1_Front.jpg|thumb|center|200px]]
</td><td align="center" width="120">
No Image
</td></tr></table>
Last Day of Commissioning, cachet by [[Cachet_Maker_Tazewell_G_Nicholson_ | Tazewell G. Nicholson]]


<p> </p>
<h3>Other Information</h3>
'''NAMESAKE''' - A county and a city in southeastern Florida



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[[Contact_Us | contact the Curator]] or edit this page yourself and add it.
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	Delivered to U.S. Army Transportation Service December 1944<br/><br/>		Delivered to U.S. Army Transportation Service December 1944<br/><br/>
	<li>'''USAT COLONEL ARMOND PETERSON FS-217'''</li>		<li>'''USAT COLONEL ARMOND PETERSON FS-217'''</li>
	Commissioned 1944 - Decommissioned 1956~~<br/>~~<br/>		Commissioned 1944 - Decommissioned 1956<br/>
	Acquired by U.S. Navy June 18 1966<br/><br/>		Acquired by U.S. Navy June 18 1966<br/><br/>
	<li>'''PALM BEACH AKL-45'''</li>		<li>'''PALM BEACH AKL-45'''</li>
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	<li>'''USS PALM BEACH AGER-3'''</li>		<li>'''USS PALM BEACH AGER-3'''</li>
	Commissioned May 13 1967 - Decommissioned December 1 1969<br/>		Commissioned May 13 1967 - Decommissioned December 1 1969<br/>
	Struck from Naval Register December 1 1969~~<br/>~~<br/>		Struck from Naval Register December 1 1969<br/>
	Sold in 1969-70 to Ralston Robertson, Bayou La Batre, AL.<br/><br/>		Sold in 1969-70 to Ralston Robertson, Bayou La Batre, AL.<br/><br/>
	<li>'''~~M/V~~ ORO VERDE''' (Commercial Service)</li>		<li>'''ORO VERDE''' (Commercial Service)</li>
	Resold to a Panamanian Co., date unknown, renamed M/V Oro Verde<br/>		Resold to a Panamanian Co., date unknown, renamed M/V Oro Verde<br/>
	Carried bananas but also rumored to carry marijuana<br/>		Carried bananas but also rumored to carry marijuana<br/>